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Date: 2016-11-30 08:14 pm (UTC)Evlynn, weeee!
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Date: 2016-11-30 09:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-11-30 09:37 pm (UTC)I wasn't a fan of the writing in this episode. The emotional moments all felt slapped on without sense for subtlety, and the Egypt/werewolf/virus connection... well. :)
But I'm all for making sense of senseless canon. That sounds like a good idea - if Apep can incite chaos in everyone else, why not other Gods?
Now everyone is susceptible but the Librarians. ;)
About that. Why would you castrate a big bad like this right in the beginning?
I definitely like chaos as an enemy, because it is so intangible, and everyone is in danger. I think it would have been better to keep them on their toes. They'd have to worry about it hitting them again, hoping they won't have to sing again, they'd get insecure whenever people start fighting, that kind of thing.
The Harmony thing worked once, granted, but they were all mighty confident he had no power over them anymore. Although that could have been bravado on their part just to keep him from trying again. Hm... I like that idea.
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Date: 2016-12-03 09:45 pm (UTC)I like that idea too!
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Date: 2016-12-15 01:52 pm (UTC)Also I agree with the above comments that it seemed weird to get rid of the big bad so quickly/easily.
Jenkins was a star here, and I think there's a lot we don't know about how his immortality works.
I don't understand why the original Guardian was immortal; the locket have anything to do with it? An immortal Guardian would seem to be a good thing though, helping them protect the Librarians who seem to keep running into more danger than they can handle.
Things got crowded and I can see why they might want to lose a character. They're all a little too similar at times to need them all working together; I'd like to see more definition of their specific skill sets. Ezekiel stood around with zero lines until his moment for heroism came, and then Cassandra was almost wasted except for pulling a lever at the end.
It also seems Stone is the potential replacement for Flynn, but it's not there yet, as his "we're Librarians" failure where Flynn succeeded proved.
Also that ridiculous pulling up the bridge. Werewolves and marines can jump!
Patchy episode overall that wasn't quite fun enough for me to overlook the flaws.
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Date: 2016-12-16 08:42 pm (UTC)It's a huge trope to keep a lot of secrets in one character, to reveal a little at a time, but it definitely works for me with Jenkins. (Not so much with Jake and his sudden super strength.)
I don't understand why the original Guardian was immortal; the locket have anything to do with it?
Hmmmm.... good point. I never actually thought about that. Judson and Charlene were the only ones who lived that long, all the others seemed to be normal mortals. And Judson also died at some point, so it can't just be some magical artifact for him. Strange.
Ezekiel stood around with zero lines until his moment for heroism came, and then Cassandra was almost wasted except for pulling a lever at the end.
That is true. I still don't think they're going to lose one of the LITs. But of course they could have given one of them Flynn's part easily - there really were no special skills involved in this episode.
It also seems Stone is the potential replacement for Flynn, but it's not there yet, as his "we're Librarians" failure where Flynn succeeded proved.
Ah, right. But it could just be that there's only ever one for whom it works. Maybe it will only work for Jake once Flynn is dead. (sigh.)
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Date: 2016-12-17 05:04 pm (UTC)I haven't yet seen the Librarian movies so I was hoping the immortality might have been explained in those. Maybe not then!
I agree there's no way we're losing one of the LITs. Stone definitely reads as a potential Flynn replacement at this point, but then I was wrong about Leverage and who took over Nate's role as leader. And Leverage is what I'm comparing with in terms of you can have a new leader who does things differently but your team all need different skills/strengths or they're ultimately interchangeable and replaceable, not good for charactes we're supposed to be invested in!
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Date: 2016-12-17 09:02 pm (UTC)But it has been used in every single episode so far - without ever mentioning its source or anyone wondering about it.
I haven't yet seen the Librarian movies so I was hoping the immortality might have been explained in those. Maybe not then!
I've seen them (and am not a fan), but no, it hasn't been explained. There is a hint that Judson founded the Library, implying that that makes him the first Librarian, of course. But Charlene has always been shown as the accountant, no hint of Guardian anywhere.
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Date: 2016-12-17 06:00 pm (UTC)I love Charlene already. Competent older woman (visibly-older as well as immortal-older) who solves problems by making herself an impromptu magic harem? Wonderful. Although she seems more like a Librarian herself than a Guardian -- handles things more with wit and cunning than physical prowess.
With all Flynn's knowledge, you'd think he would have noticed that "I am incompetent and putting you all in danger, so I must leave" is a trope that never plays out well. At least he ends with "I'll be back" instead of "goodbye forever."
Apep as perky Canadian woman was the most adorable thing about the episode. Well, that and Ezekiel playing fetch.
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Date: 2016-12-17 09:08 pm (UTC)I thought it was going to be, and I wouldn't have minded (although this ep was a bit too Stargate-y because of it).
I love Charlene already.
I can't say I liked her enchanting the cultists to believe she was a goddess. That's very iffy and blatantly non-con.
But I liked that she was shown as a person, instead of just a stingy accountant like always before.
I really liked that she saw through Eve's "Cassie is doing the books" trick, too.
With all Flynn's knowledge, you'd think he would have noticed that "I am incompetent and putting you all in danger, so I must leave" is a trope that never plays out well.
Muahaha. Also, he needn't have left at all. Can't he just be researching something and just not be in the room while they stumble into their next mission? Why the big separation (which felt a bit repetitive, too)?
Apep as perky Canadian woman was the most adorable thing about the episode.
Loved that part, too. Although my favorite part will forever be Eve and Flynn all lovey dovey looking at the mountains.
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Date: 2016-12-18 02:00 am (UTC)...I had totally forgotten Charlene was in the movies. Mostly I just remember them being kinda formulaic, and really underwhelming in comparison to the series. Wonder if it's worth doing a rewatch just to fill in her characterization, and decide how I feel about how well the retconning works.
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Date: 2016-12-18 07:40 am (UTC)Ah, right, he did say that. That changes the situation, of course. I still think it's iffy.
Mostly I just remember them being kinda formulaic, and really underwhelming in comparison to the series.
They were. Especially the first one was a real pain to get through. The other two were marginally better. But of course ymmv, a lot of people in the fandom really like the movies.
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Date: 2016-12-18 08:33 am (UTC)So "magically seeing Charlene as someone whose shoulders they would want to massage" is basically the kindest situation they're in all episode.
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