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Airdate: 18 Dec 2016 in the U.S.

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Fear of Clowns, anyone? ;)

(If you're reading this post months later and feel like jumping in, please do.)

Date: 2016-12-19 08:40 am (UTC)
mecca: (Flynn & Eve | S2 400 Years)
From: [personal profile] mecca
After complaining so much about last weeks episode, this one was like night and day. I really enjoyed just about everything about it. Whomever are the writer(s) of this episode, please bring them back for future episodes. There were so many little funny bits of dialogue. My favorite has to be "Don't Correct Me!" / "Well, Don't Be Wrong!" I need to remember to use that line in real life.

The story was a bit meh, but the character interactions within our core group more than made up for it. Jenkins and the kid at the beginning were adorable. I was kind of sad that they got rid of him so quickly. I wouldn't have minded if he stuck around a bit longer helping Jenkins find more clues while Jenkins pretended to be exasperated the whole time.

I see this show is continuing the tradition of killing minor characters and not really caring. A few episodes ago, it was the werewolves and that officer's S.O. and this week it was the magician falling into a vat of wax.

Remind me again, why we are supposed to care about D.O.S.A? So far, they feel more like an annoyance than a true big bad of the season.

YEAH! Flynn is back next week! :D I like that the show still mentions him even when he's gone. Last few seasons, it felt like he was "out of sight, out of mind". Btw, I can totally see Flynn sending Eve a little note asking her to check "Yes" or "No" to indicate if she liked him or not. lol

Date: 2016-12-25 06:54 pm (UTC)
mecca: (Flynn & Eve | S2 There You Are)
From: [personal profile] mecca
Or maybe it's that Jenkins makes everything better, even kids. ;)

Definitely Jenkins. :) I love seeing Jenkins' evolution as a character over the past couple of seasons from barely tolerating everyone to really treating them like family that he would do everything in his power to save.

They're like a side-note, the scene did nothing but keep them present but not telling us anything new about them. :/ It would have been better to have them snoop around in the background or something.

I know that they had Vanessa Williams for a limited time, but they could as you said, had her henchmen or whatever randomly in the background during each episode like a "Where's Waldo" situation to keep them in the front of our mind.

Yay! Although what Eve said, that "Flynn is in and out", didn't seem right. Didn't he say he was going to look for Charlene? That doesn't really fit with him coming and going...

Even though she knows his reasoning behind it, I guess Eve may still see it as Flynn leaving alone without consulting her first. He's still not asking for help and taking the burden of finding Charlene all on himself. It still comes off as him not being part of the team.

I was a bit confused by that. I don't think there was any need for notes after she kissed him and they talked about "wanting to travel the world together" as early as 1x02. I thought that had made their feelings clear already.

Yeah, there wasn't really much room for doubt by the end of the pilot episode. I'm just going to imagine that Flynn left the note in Eve's pocket at some point, but she didn't find it until after they had kissed? I don't know. :/

Date: 2017-01-03 01:45 pm (UTC)
meridian_rose: pen on letter background  with text  saying 'writer' (Default)
From: [personal profile] meridian_rose
That was a great line and yes, I enjoyed Jenkins and the interaction with the kid. I'd forgot about the werewolves but I noticed this death and yes, didn't this show used to care more about not killing where possible?!

Date: 2016-12-25 12:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] erinptah
Agreed on the death. And what a horrific way to go, too. Even though they didn't linger on any gory details, they're easy to imagine if you think about it for a few seconds.

I appreciate that TV is moving away from the trope of "Nice Guys making big dramatic gestures are sweet and romantic and deserve to get the uninterested girl as a reward" -- but it would be nice to get to the point where these arcs end with "Nice Guy has a learning experience, recognizes that he's being creepy, and sets off to be a better person."

Date: 2016-12-25 12:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] erinptah
That was pretty great. So many good one-liners! And I was just talking about how I like the show making excuses for fun costumes -- wow, was this episode a doozy. Like some of the more whimsical episodes of Leverage, or Bones.

Cool old-movie-reel effects on the flashback.

Kid sidekick: "I'm a precocious scamp."

Eve and Eve: "Jenkins, get this second head off my shoulders!" "Oh, like you weren't looking." (And then she gets a paper bag, which makes the special effects a lot easier.)

Ezekiel: "Are you sure you kept the right head?"

Another "they start with amnesia, but it gets fixed almost instantly" setup. Couldn't they have skipped the amnesia part, just had the ad-hoc smelling salts (!!) snap the team out of the spell, and then we get flashback sequences as they recap everything for Jenkins?

Felicia Day!...gets to play another ordinary woman with a creepy stalker wannabe-boyfriend. Somebody get her a decent love interest already. (Side rec: Hello From The Magic Tavern recently guest-starred her as Jyn'leeviyah the Red, and it was wonderful. She and Usidore are equally ridiculous.)

Best single moment of the episode: Cassandra: "It's not magic. It's whimsy!" Oh dear lord.

Eve: "No, he set me a note that said, do you like me? Check yes or no." Flynn yes.

Ridiculous clown fight sequences!

Mysterio's little "now I'm going to have them beat each other to death for you!" stunt was really harsh. The fact that he's mind-controlling people by the dozens, and the woman he's trying to impress is tied to a chair, makes it hard to miss that he's "a total psycho now." Maybe it's there to help us not feel bad that he dies at the end?

"Don't correct me." "Don't be wrong." I mean, yeah, but c'mon Stone, it's not like he had the meaning of the quote bungled. He just transposed a couple of words.

I have mixed feelings about the Librarians' take on what counts as Real Magic. Showmanship and sleight-of-hand and bringing joy to children are all valuable, but this universe has literal magic!

Compare My Little Pony invoking "true magic comes from friendship!" against various bad guys -- it's not a metaphor, it's that friendship-based magic is measurably the strongest kind. Or Discworld, where the foundation of witchcraft is regularly cited as "paying attention to people and using your brain," and for wizardry it's "knowing when not to use magic." In both cases, we see magic go Horribly Wrong when you don't have the foundation. Not so with Mysterio.

...that said, I do like how it tied in with the team winning via sleight-of-hand. "Don't write off nonmagical strategies and headology" is a good moral. (The Discworld witches would approve.)

Date: 2016-12-25 07:12 pm (UTC)
mecca: (Flynn & Eve | S2 I Needed You)
From: [personal profile] mecca
Cool old-movie-reel effects on the flashback.

That made me feel a bit old since I was a teen around that time and they made it look like it was from the 60's. lol

Felicia Day!...gets to play another ordinary woman with a creepy stalker wannabe-boyfriend. Somebody get her a decent love interest already. (Side rec: Hello From The Magic Tavern recently guest-starred her as Jyn'leeviyah the Red, and it was wonderful. She and Usidore are equally ridiculous.)

On the show Eureka, she had a pretty stable relationship although her character came close to veering off into the nerd version of a "Manic Pixie Dream Girl".

I loved all those quotes! Also, Ezekiel's "Matata" response and mentioning the "Insane Clown Posse". :D

Date: 2016-12-25 09:54 pm (UTC)
erinptah: (Default)
From: [personal profile] erinptah
I think it just went with the whole aesthetic of the carnival, and of Mysterio's fantasies being callbacks to a much earlier time. The clowns and the rides have hung on into the modern era, but we haven't done the P.T. Barnum "house of freaks! see the strongman, see the real mermaid!" stuff since before these characters were born.

Aw yes, the "Matata" line was perfect.

Date: 2016-12-30 12:36 am (UTC)
dhampyresa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dhampyresa
I hope Felicia Day's character gets to come back!

Date: 2017-01-01 05:51 pm (UTC)
lavenderspark: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lavenderspark
This episode was fun and creepy at the same time. The magician was clearly obsessed, kidnapping women and forcing them to go to a carnival. Then we find out it all started as a misunderstanding due to his lack of self esteem.

I was excited to see Felicia Day! I'm happy her character got out ok.

This episode just screamed for a Warehouse 13 crossover. Even the "new artifact" room had a warehouse feel to it.

Oo! Oo! We could bring in HG Wells as Cassandra's girlfriend! How awesome would that be?!

Date: 2017-01-03 01:47 pm (UTC)
meridian_rose: pen on letter background  with text  saying 'writer' (Default)
From: [personal profile] meridian_rose
Yes, I was reminded of WH13 when Jenkins talked about how artefacts are created :) I'd love to see Claudia show up - and OMG HG/Cassandra, YESSSS!

Date: 2017-01-03 01:43 pm (UTC)
meridian_rose: pen on letter background  with text  saying 'writer' (Default)
From: [personal profile] meridian_rose
*posting without reading other comments first*
Jenkins proved his worth again here - near the end Eve says she'll never doubt him again; didn't she say that a couple of episodes ago?!

The kid at the start was great. Too often kids on tv are saccharine innocents too good to be true or outright horrors that we're still expected to like. This kid was a self-professed scamp and maybe even a future Librarian?

Poor Cassandra, having never been to a carnival before. A lot of her tragic backstory seems to have been airbrushed out lately, so this was a nice nod to her past while showing how it's never weighed her down.

I wondered if Felicia Day was heading for a re-tread of her Dr Horrible role, the damsel sought by the villain with devestating consequences. But the Librarians came to her resuce! Sean Astin was a surprisingly big name guest star here too.

The cinematography was weird? Lots of the outdoor shots were overly bright and hazy. Possibly to hint at the unreal nature of the fair? But it wasn't so obvious in the Jenkins + kid scenes so IDK. And the flashback was lit to show it as such, when Eve & Cassandra confronted Kirby, but was also jerky/time-distorted and I found all these stylistic choices distracting.

Ezekiel's sleight of hand came in handy here, though it's not often we see a death like that in the show.

DOSA showed up to help with the clean up, they're on the Librarian's trail which will soon come to fore.

Overall a typical Librarians episode.

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