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Airdate: 25 Dec 2016 in the U.S.



I've been looking forward to this episode... let's see how Noah's first script holds up!

(If you're reading this post months later and feel like jumping in, please do.)

Date: 2016-12-28 02:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] erinptah
Wait, does that mean Noah wrote himself being tied up into a script? Hah.

I'm disappointed they're going with a Bermuda Triangle plot. The area doesn't actually have a greater-than-average rate of disappeared ships! As dangerous oceanic regions go, it's not even in the top 10. Surely one of these geniuses would know that.

The staged fight was pretty adorable. I didn't quite catch why it was necessary, I just love it when team members are so on the same wavelength that they can pull a stunt like that, improvised, and make it work.

Eve pwning Flynn in the bathroom was great. Actor is definitely a masochist.

Eve's plane-flying skills come into play once more!

...The hypnotism bit was super weird but ok.

I feel like we already had the arc of "Flynn realizes he's too much of a loner, learns the value of opening up and bonding with the LiTs." Am I completely misremembering? And didn't he learn it through teamwork the first time, too, instead of through a series of weird internal conversations with the cast of Alice in Metaphorland?

Jenkins/Galahad as the White Knight is good casting, I'll give it that.

Had some good character moments, and some good lines, but I wish there had been less time and energy spent rehashing emotional beats we've already hit, and more on making a substantial quest-of-the-week.

Date: 2016-12-28 02:54 pm (UTC)
mecca: (Flynn & Eve | S2 Storm)
From: [personal profile] mecca
I think Noah Wyle did a pretty good job for his first time out!

The staged fight was pretty adorable. I didn't quite catch why it was necessary

It was so they could get their equipment around security. Ezekiel needed a distraction so he could turn off the x-ray machine.

It probably won't happen, but I would like to see Flynn and Eve have a real conversation about some of the things that were said during that "fight".

I feel like we already had the arc of "Flynn realizes he's too much of a loner, learns the value of opening up and bonding with the LiTs." Am I completely misremembering?

It definitely felt like I was having Deja Vu during those scenes. I understand that change takes time and in reality, Flynn wouldn't just suddenly become a team player overnight, but watching the same arguments and looks of disappointment thrown at him over and over again becomes less meaningful or interesting the third or fourth time around. Especially since not 30 seconds prior to Flynn promising to do better he flat out told Jenkins to keep yet another important bit of information from everyone.

The writers need to come up with another reason why Flynn disappears for awhile next season because Flynn being a "runner" is getting old.

Date: 2016-12-29 02:14 am (UTC)
erinptah: (Default)
From: [personal profile] erinptah
Ah, it was about turning the X-ray machine off. And...somehow, the security people just don't notice that their X-ray machine is no longer working? No failsafe alarms start ringing? After the Librarians get through, there's no belated realization and airport-wide lockdown while they re-scan everyone?

See, if they were working with other government agencies, they could just get official dispensation to bring their equipment on the plane. Like the MiBs apparently did with their firearms (!!).

Date: 2016-12-30 12:42 am (UTC)
mecca: (Flynn & Eve | S1 Date)
From: [personal profile] mecca
Ah, it was about turning the X-ray machine off. And...somehow, the security people just don't notice that their X-ray machine is no longer working? No failsafe alarms start ringing? After the Librarians get through, there's no belated realization and airport-wide lockdown while they re-scan everyone?

Yeah, the whole thing was a bit absurd. lol

See, if they were working with other government agencies, they could just get official dispensation to bring their equipment on the plane. Like the MiBs apparently did with their firearms (!!).

Even better, Ezekiel could have just forged some government documents for everyone since he was making fake IDs anyway. Maybe they'll be a twist at the end of the season where they team up with DOSA and become official in some capacity?

Date: 2016-12-30 12:53 am (UTC)
mecca: (Butterfly Kitty | Maker Uknown)
From: [personal profile] mecca
Also, the foreshadowing of his death is really clear by now. He thinks he is the one going to die. Which only makes me think Eve is going to wrest the sacrifice from him at the last minute. Hmpf. :/

It's so obvious that it's Flynn that it probably won't be him. I'm not sure it's Eve either just because we've been down that road before. I'm just holding on to hope that whoever ends up dying, it will not be a permanent death. :(

Date: 2016-12-29 11:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dhampyresa
I didn't really like this episode.

It felt like two halves of different episodes (plane crash vs Wonderland) and neither was explored fully. I wanted to see more of Wonderland. Did Hatter Ezekiel even have any lines?

It's good that the show called out Flynn's issues, now fix them. Those issues are pretty much exactmy why I only like Flynn in small doses.

Date: 2016-12-30 11:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dhampyresa
I didn't like the hypnotism thing, but I still think the episode is really disjointed.

I feel like Flynn was particularly insufferable this episode.

Date: 2017-01-01 06:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lavenderspark
I didn't like the hypnotism either. The way it was done wasn't even believable.

I also feel like there should have been more people/things in Wonderland given all the disappearances. I was expecting a whole city or something.

I don't like the whole Flynn must die plot either. I don't think he will, but I think it'll loom over everything for a while. I also don't think Eve or any of the LITs will die. I think Eve's being "special" will come into play and it will save everyone.

Date: 2017-01-05 07:37 pm (UTC)
meridian_rose: pen on letter background  with text  saying 'writer' (Default)
From: [personal profile] meridian_rose
Didn't they say that everything got destroyed, planes, people, hence the need for the "magical tic-tacs"? I thought the Rabbit/Tibbar bit survived because it was housing the magical artifact, the rest just created by anyone like Flynn who arrived, in order to test them.

Date: 2017-01-05 09:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lavenderspark
Hmm. I thought the tic tac thing was so they could get back? But now that you say it, I think you're right, so that makes sense that there wouldn't be other people there.

Date: 2017-01-05 07:33 pm (UTC)
meridian_rose: pen on letter background  with text  saying 'writer' (Default)
From: [personal profile] meridian_rose
*posting before reading other comments and replying to them*

Jonathan Frakes. Seeing his name always make me happy because he picks the best episodes to direct, not only here but in other shows too. And this was no exception. Much as I love Ezekiel the character I find Kim's acting to be the weakest of the cast, but even he was pulled by the strong script and direction.

And the script! Noah Wyle's love of the show and characters showed through. There were so many good moments, so much humour. Flynn's ancient Spanish was hilarious.

I didn't mind the overbright CGI with fake!Jenkins because this was so clearly a constructed universe, and the effects with the chessboard and fall through the rabbit hole more than made up for it.

I liked Jake's literary expertise. This is one of the things I talked about, the need for specialities.
And team work. Can Noah write more episodes please, because everyone bringing their skills to the table and working together was everything I wanted, everything I think earlier seasons had.

Also the clothes for the intervention were amazing. Eve looked great - I dislike the jumpsuits - Jake and Ezekiel were nicely presented and even Cassandra looked beautiful. It didn't last, because Cassandra's wardrobe always has to look like she picked it up blindfolded at a jumble (rummage) sale but every now and then we get an amazing dress (the nightclub episode with Dorian Gray for example) or this beautiful black number and I love it.

The little team touches, Cassandra and Ezekiel huddling together during the intervention and then Stone helping her off the table later were sweet.

Eve and Flynn's argument was nicely done, bringing up all their actual baggage. Still she should have known better than to expect him to get off the plane if she wasn't pushing him from behind!

I've had my bet on Flynn to die since I heard about the planned loss of a character. This early foreshadowing actually makes me less sure rather than more certain. It's less of a shock, too expected now in some respects. I'm nervously eyeing up Jenkins, the only other one to know the cost, who's immortal and might be willing to sacrifice that to save Flynn - or come out unscathed/resurrected, the loss being a psych-out by the writers. (Game of Thrones tried this after all)
Or Eve. This episode proves how much she and Flynn do care about each other and isn't it a Guardian's job to save a Libraian, even from themselves, even at the cost of their own life? I'm wondering if it will tie in with the Oracle's prediction about how Eve will change the library. Maybe she won't truly die but become part of the library itself?

Anyway, a great episode from a great combo team of writer/director and I'd love to see more like this :D

Date: 2017-01-15 11:07 am (UTC)
tinny: a stone henge back lighted in green with the words "maths" and "magic" (librarians_henge maths-magic)
From: [personal profile] tinny
I wrote a review post about this episode here:

http://tinny.dreamwidth.org/300233.html

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