Season 3 Spoiler Discussion

[tinny]

Since this is a Spoiler discussion, everything under the cut and all comments are considered spoilery. Enter at your own risk! ;)



OK, so I didn't really want to put more thought into this, but I can't get it out of my head. :/

Dean Devlin said "We're going to lose a character this year." (link)

Here's a poll for you:

Poll #17757 Who will die

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Who will die this season

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Cassandra
0 (0.0%)

Eve
0 (0.0%)

Flynn
2 (40.0%)

Jake
0 (0.0%)

Jenkins
2 (40.0%)

Nobody (it's all misdirection)
1 (20.0%)

Someone else

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WTF I forgot Ezekiel in the poll. /o\ That was an accident.


Here's my personal opinion:

I don't like that Dean Devlin purposely took the show in a darker direction. I am sad John Rogers is no longer running the show. They explicitly stated in season 1 that they want the show to be fun, and they don't want people to worry about characters dying. And now that's exactly what they're doing and I feel betrayed.

I hope he's just kidding and the character who dies will not be really dead. They have the option on this show, and I hope they're going to use it.

I'm usually all for dark in the things I watch, but the Librarians are the exception. Now I'm "forced" to think about one of my beloved characters dying and that's just no fun. I would much rather have discussed silly things and squeed about ships. This is not what I wanted to deal with this season.

I doubt it'll get more people to watch, but why else would he be doing it? (Maybe Dean wants to be Stephen Moffat. Argh.)

Comments

[donutsweeper]

I'm not thrilled with this 'darker' take either. But it's interesting that first he says "There's actually people that die this season, which we didn't used to do." but later "We're going to lose a character this year."

Lose = die though? (There's alternate realities, timelines, whatever kind of thing where someone can be taken off the canvas but not die and 'lose' can also just mean quit or something)

The show's premise started out as being about the trainee Librarians, their Guardian and Jenkins as their support so maybe they plan on going back to that and having Flynn no longer regularly showing up?

[tinny]

You're right, losing is not the same as dying. But it sounds more permanent to me, somehow. Which probably just means my sense of language is screwed up. ;)

I think all the foreshadowing points to it being Flynn. I just... a) I love Flynn and b) Noah only just came back and played a bigger role again and I thought that meant he was staying. Of course the hints could be misleading, making us all think it's going to be Flynn and then it won't. I don't know.

I don't think anyone wanted to leave - because that would definitely change the reasoning behind the whole thing. Assuming nobody wanted to leave, I just don't understand why they would kill anyone. Why? I don't get it at all.

In terms of "minimal damage", I think Flynn is the least central character to the show (which is weird, seeing as he was the original Librarian). Anyway, my guess is it's going to be him for that reason, too.

Then of course, it could be connected to the whole "Cassandra is doing magic" thing. She could be dying, Flynn could save her (like she saved him), and he dies instead. Or she could die and become something else. I think the interview hints at the group splintering, too. So it may be related to her in some way.

[dhampyresa]

Flynn makes the most sense thematically.

[tinny]

Yeah, which is what makes me so sad. I love him so much.

[erinptah]

I hope it's a misdirect, and "lose" just means someone's leaving the team. Like, for a quest in the next universe over. Or to ascend to a higher and more bookish plane of existence.

[tinny]

Haha. :)

I guess it would make sense for Cassie to become one of the Ladies of the Lake (and those seem pretty immortal).

I hadn't really considered them breaking up the team like that, though. I always only thought of taking away someone from the edges (i.e. Jenkins or Flynn). I don't know if that makes sense. I just always envisioned a Leverage-like constellation where everyone stays put until the end.

[meridian_rose]

I agree with the comments. I voted Jenkins because in some ways he or Flynn are the easiest to lose without disturbing the overall team dynamic. Also "dead but got better" is a common trope in fantasy/sci-fi shows. And yes "lose" could see Cassandra ascending to Lady of the Lake status or someone being trapped elsewhere for the rest of the season but maybe not forever.

I haven't seen the first s3 episode yet so can't comment on the tone. I agree with you though, this is or was a light-hearted show, akin to Leverage in tone. It doesn't need to be dark to maintain interest.

Ezekiel is the trickster, maybe he used his own special magic to stay out of the poll :)

[tinny]

I voted Jenkins because in some ways he or Flynn are the easiest to lose

Yes, they are. They make the most sense. I still think it's Flynn. Especially because of what he said in the premiere (let me know what you think once you've seen it), and judging from the deluge of Evlynn promos we're currently getting. For some reason, the promos (on all shows, not just the Librarians) are always pushing the pairing that's going to die. I just want to enjoy their love for a change, is that too much to ask?

I haven't seen the first s3 episode yet so can't comment on the tone.

I think the tone of the premiere was plenty lighthearted, actually. It was exactly what we were used to and what we expected. The tumblr fandom exploded with love over the premiere.

Ezekiel is the trickster, maybe he used his own special magic to stay out of the poll :)

Muahaha, that's gotta be it. :D